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Rock Of Ages Hike

Last post 04-17-2008, 10:19 PM by markesc. 59 replies.
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  • Re: Rock Of Ages Hike

     03-26-2008, 7:36 PM

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    chameleon:
    That is indeed the sign!  Any idea what it once said?  Anyway, I've most recently travelled this path a couple of months ago, and it was in good shape up until about the spot where it switches back to begin the climb to Rock of Ages Ridge.  However, you can make it out and follow it all the way with little difficulty once you get onto the first main switch back up the ridge.  However, the upper part seems to have evolved into a straight scramble up the slope at some points.  I'm not sure loppers are as needed as perhaps a garden hoe or pulaski to make the vegetated portion where it begins to switch back more pronounced.

    It's a much deteriorated sign as the pic reveals but I think it said "ridge trail" - you can see the "trail" part but I'm guessing on the "ridge" part. Have you spotted the two shelters/cabins up there? Quite the interesting place!

    Don


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     03-26-2008, 7:54 PM

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    I'm going to assume this is beyond the Arch trail? Instead of turning left to the Arch, you go to the right? I didn't see any signs except the trail not maintained sign at the Ages trailhead. Let me know when everyone is game, I'll be there!!
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     03-26-2008, 8:00 PM

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    Perhaps we should leave the 'start' to this trail from the Ponytail falls trail for "private messages."  It would be a shame to completely break down the trail's secrets!

    -Zach

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     03-26-2008, 8:04 PM

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    Agreed, less traveled is better when you seek solitude.
  • Re: Rock Of Ages Hike

     03-26-2008, 8:05 PM

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    chameleon:

    Perhaps we should leave the 'start' to this trail from the Ponytail falls trail for "private messages."  It would be a shame to completely break down the trail's secrets!

    -Zach

     

    Zach,

    Good idea - Tom or Jeff , can you fix this? I may have revealed too much here. My bad!


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     03-26-2008, 8:09 PM

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    Not all bad Don. You helped me learn a new trail, I love scrambles and bushwacking!!

  • Re: Rock Of Ages Hike

     03-26-2008, 8:55 PM

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        Don…

    Unmarked trails and lots of abuse… where do I sign.

    Lets try and plan something after next weekend, unless we figure out a better way to abuse ourselves in the meantime.

    JC

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  • Re: Rock Of Ages Hike

     03-26-2008, 9:57 PM

    if you guys do talk about the start of the trail in private messages, make sure you tell me, as youve got me very interested

    jamey pyles
  • Re: Rock Of Ages Hike

     03-27-2008, 12:46 AM

    chameleon wrote the following post at 03-26-2008 8:00 PM: Perhaps we should leave the 'start' to this trail from the Ponytail falls trail for "private messages."  It would be a shame to completely break down the trail's secrets! -Zach

    I don't know, Zach. I understand where you're coming from and I respect your position, but I'm not sure I agree. I think this trail and other so-called "lost" trails became disused because they are physically demanding and the Nike-shod Sunday crowd considers them uncomfortable and / or dangerous. These trails appeal to only a small number of hard-core hikers; from what you guys say about this one I have a feeling it's no exception. At the end of the day, I think the few people who might hike this trail because they read about it in this forum are experienced enough that they won't trash it. The wilderness belongs to all, and it's everyone's responsibility to know their abilities and act accordingly. Besides, we need a little bit of traffic on these trails lest they vanish entirely.

    Believe me, when I'm hiking I value my solitude. But the truth is that on most trails you'll run into maybe 3 or 4 people in 20 miles. And that's trails that are in all the books..

    I started gravitating toward this forum after I started pretty much exhausting my hike book. There is an awesome lot of tribal knowledge out there, and the point of forums like this is to share it with like-minded people who will appreciate it, treat it with respect, and pass it on to others... At least that's the way I look at it, but I also understand and appreciate your desire to keep those areas pristine.

  • Re: Rock Of Ages Hike

     03-27-2008, 10:00 AM

    I've done the Rock of Ages loop to the Horsetail Trail connector and down Oneonta Creek, but that red line is a new one to me.  How old is that trail?

     


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  • Re: Rock Of Ages Hike

     03-27-2008, 10:36 AM

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    Navigator:

    I've done the Rock of Ages loop to the Horsetail Trail connector and down Oneonta Creek, but that red line is a new one to me.  How old is that trail?

    This trail is unmarked on both ends and can't be spotted from the RofA side at all.You have to know where it is to find it and follow it from the top side or you risk ending up in a vine maple tangle or on the wrong ridgeline and cliffed-out. It's easy to spot from the bottom but is steep and rocky and most hikers probably don't notice it. There are a lot of "lost" trails out there but this one is pretty nice.

    Russ Jolley is in his mid 80's so he could have done this quite a while ago. I don't know any details.

    dn


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     03-27-2008, 10:49 AM

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    Fredo,

    Well said! In reality, I see more escaped party balloon remnants in the deep woods than trash from careless hikers. This trail is likely safe from the masses anyway: The top is about 2,200' elevation where it joins the R of A trail and few if any of the "Sunday crowd" get anywhere near that far. The lower junction looks more like a typical animal trail and is very steep at the start.

    OK, since the cat's out of the bag anyway, how about a mission to get up there and clear a few downed trees and a lot of branches off this thing?

    Don


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  • Re: Rock Of Ages Hike

     03-27-2008, 11:03 AM

    I'm fascinated by all of these undocumented trails in the Gorge. I guess being so close to Portland, it's bound to have had a lot of visitors over the years.

    I have mixed thoughts on publicizing routes like this. In general, I'm in favor of telling everyone about every hike. I agree with Fredo that the only way trails like this are maintained is by making footprints. The only potential downside is that there are so many unprepared people in areas like Ponytail Falls that I worry about people getting lost.



    What do you suppose is around that next bend?
  • Re: Rock Of Ages Hike

     03-27-2008, 11:56 AM

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    Fredo,

       I completely agree when referring to such routes as Opal creek (off Eagle) and such - where the beginning of these trails requires a bit more commitment to get to...but this trail in question is different.  It is the type to get trashed by mid-night highschool joy rides and such.  While there is no question that Don is right about there being more balloon remnants than trash from hikers, that would change on this trail - unless it is maintained on an annual basis. (Even on my recent trips up this trail, I've found recent trash - @ 2 weeks old). Most people don't realize how much clean-up work volunteer crews and forest service crews do to keep our trails clean and preserved. 

       This trail is highly accessible - and though steep at the start, very easy.  (it involves a root ladder)  I just suggest caution in promoting un-maintained trails that will be prone to extremely high numbers of hikers - as this one is.) Unless you are willing to go in on a regular basis to maintain it.

       My rationale is:

       1.  Ponytail falls sees extreme numbers all year long.

       2.  This trail is just the sort to attract beer-toting, bottle leaving evening outings from those who while not conservation-minded, would like to think they are off the beaten path.

       3.  If this trail does see substantial new traffic, it WILL be trashed.  The Forest Service will not be yearly maintaining this route.

       4.  If you do want to encourage more use on this potentially high-volume trail, I would suggest working with the Forest Service to work out a maintenance plan.

       I respect all opinions on this thread, and am happy we're able to address all of our conservation concerns! 

    -Zach

  • Re: Rock Of Ages Hike

     04-17-2008, 10:19 PM

    Amazing!

    I'd love to do a night hike of this, or late in the day and collect some night time exposures during a new moon if our wonderful spring weather actually works!  I'd also like to photograph this before it's ruined.  I think the best thing would to leave it as a non disclosed location if anyone would ask.....

    What are everyones thoughts?  Amazing photos, I really wish to go there!!
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